A 16K mile 2010 Mini Cooper S Clubman.

"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
05/02/2018 at 20:32 • Filed to: None

I’m checking the car this weekend, tell me why this is a bad idea.

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DISCUSSION (19)

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > My citroen won't start
05/02/2018 at 20:40

That’s not a horrible idea. I love those. I considered a Mini last time I was shopping but I couldn’t find a Countyman S with brown leather and that the only one I wanted.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > My citroen won't start
05/02/2018 at 20:47

If I recall correctly, 2010 and earlier with the N14 had timing chain issues and many more. The later N18 is the one to go for in the R56-based models.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
05/02/2018 at 20:49

I think you are correct.

Try to avoid 2nd gen Minis would be my advise. Those PSA motors are finiky.

EDIT: I mean anything based on the 2nd gen mini cooper

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
05/02/2018 at 20:54

If I had to get one, I’d gladly go for a 2013 only.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
05/02/2018 at 20:57

Buy a 1st gen Mini! Those are awesome!! (I may be biased)

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
05/02/2018 at 20:59

I’m a sucker for the F56.

I’d get one if the closest Mini dealership were closer than 3 hours away.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
05/02/2018 at 21:02

I’m a bit skeptical about maintaining the newer one since they now have a BMW engine.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
05/02/2018 at 21:04

Oh, I’ve heard great things about them from family and friends.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
05/02/2018 at 21:08

Noted. I need to drive a F56 when I get a chance, still haven’t driven one of those.

Axial > My citroen won't start
05/02/2018 at 22:14

It’s ugly. :p

boxrocket > My citroen won't start
05/02/2018 at 22:58

If you have to get a MINI, get one of the original actually-mini ones, which, of course, vary by make. Don’t buy the decontented style-over-substance facsimile that BMW hawks.

That said, I do like the barn doors in the Clubman, even though they’re a significant blind spot. After owning a first-gen XC90 for a week and having lots of exposure to other hatchbacks/wagons, I’m convinced that the optimum rear door(s?) configurations are clamshell (e.g. first-gen XC90, Range Rovers - actual RRs, not the Sport or Evoque) and clamshell-over-barn door, like the Ford Excursion (which would only be bettered by a fold-down seat for tailgating, but at least the bumper acts as a good footrest).

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > My citroen won't start
05/03/2018 at 00:02

We’re On our 3rd MINI (had 2 for a while), all manual.

2008 R56 Mellow Yellow. Made it over 100k no major problems out of warranty. Traded for the 2013.

2011 R55 Red; traded at 85k because oddly the final drive gear started getting noisy. Traded for the GTI.

2013 R56s Orange - actually has had the fewest problems of all (better than the GTI even) and going strong at 75k.

Actually never had any engine problems other than coolant leaks (11, plastic thermostat) and oil pump (13). We love(d) them all and these were/are driven bat out of hell in Chicagoland.

I think keeping after timing chain tensioners and intake carbon cleaning are the main issues with N14 S engines.

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
05/03/2018 at 00:07

DO IT. I loved my clubman. Not as pretty as the regular 2-door but that’s a great color.

My bird IS the word > My citroen won't start
05/03/2018 at 00:22

Where to begin?

Timing chains that fail, thermostats that fail. Valve covers that fail. Hood releases that fail. Power windows that break. Engines with dipsticks you can’t read that burn 1qt of oil every thousand miles. Clutches that go early. Bushings that go bad. Ac that breaks.

90% of that is just what I have experienced on my car.

My citroen won't start > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo
05/03/2018 at 18:05

Can’t find a nice Clubman in N18 flavor, and the normal ones are just too plain, purchase aborted.

My citroen won't start > boxrocket
05/03/2018 at 18:06

I’m never going back to a sedan or coupe after owning the Passat, hatch is best.

My citroen won't start > My bird IS the word
05/03/2018 at 18:06

Well, purchase aborted.

boxrocket > My citroen won't start
05/03/2018 at 19:41

Ohhh yeah. My wife didn’t understand my dissatisfaction with sedans until we got her CX-5, and now she sort of gets it. While I did miss the storage space and visibility, I mostly missed having a rear window wiper. I adore just how huuuuuge the XC90's rear wiper is.

My bird IS the word > My citroen won't start
05/03/2018 at 23:22

Yeah. Honestly, If you are going hot hatch, go fiesta or focus. The cooper and the GTI are hunks of shit.